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LT
I’m starting to change my mind. Keep talking…..
Come on guys have some fun with this! I see camouflage sticks by Revlon, mosquito repellant by Chanel, Victoria Secret issue undies. Somehow the old East German track and field women come to mind!
Picture this, we are humping thru whatever terrain and I have to take a leak. I calmly step out of line, whip it out and relieve myself. Sure, I swing it around a little to show off how big it is. I then repackage it and get back in line for the rest of the hump. Same thing for a dump.
I truly can’t see Betty Sue doing the same. We would probably have to stop the hump, form a circle around her facing out of course with one trooper holding some Charmin with an extended arm within her reach. Another trooper would be holding a mirror so she could freshen up her makeup.
Please…… the thought of it makes me thrilled I’m not in todays Army.
Bill,
I can see it now! Portapotties on wheels following Infantry units and SP packets with douche and Kotex. HaHa!
The MOH was the only medal for bravery so it is not the same as the MOH today.
There were no medals so congress authorized the MOH for the civil war. It was not
until the first WWI when other medals were authorized. The current purple heart was not
authorized until `1932.
Mary Edwards Walker (November 26, 1832 – February 21, 1919) was an American feminist, abolitionist, prohibitionist, alleged spy, prisoner of war and surgeon. She is the only woman ever to receive the Medal of Honor.
Prior to the American Civil War she earned her medical degree, married and started a medical practice. The practice didn’t do well and she volunteered with the Union Army at the outbreak of the American Civil War and served as a female surgeon. She was captured by Confederate forces after crossing enemy lines to treat wounded civilians and arrested as a spy. She was sent as a prisoner of war to Richmond, Virginia until released in a prisoner exchange.
After the war she was approved for the United States military’s highest decoration for bravery, the Medal of Honor, for her efforts during the war. She is the only woman to receive the medal and one of only eight civilians to receive it.
All the ney comments were also said about blacks during the Civil War and Japanese Americans during WW II and even women on ships and support operations. They deserve
the opportunity.
lt–it was a woman who made the comment// then they moved the camera down and showed that she had lost her legs while in a unit over seas..i was raised that the men are to protect the women but we have had nurses /red cross in affaliation post for as long as i can rememeber—the show MASH is a good example…js…unless they are ready to make all the barracks co-eded, share the same showers ,live in the same barracks which of course would ease a lot of stress on the men and possibly make them better soilders ….it would put some contractors back to work…
Well ….This is so stupid….The latest statistics show there are more suicides than combat deaths among the current soldiers. People are coming home with extremely serious trauma from PTSD and the big news is that we are now going to expose more women to it….We are devolving into a very sick society.
I didn’t know this until today, but Canada has had women in the Infantry since 1989 and they’ve served in the Gulf War and Afghanistan without problems.
Panetta says everyone deserves a chance. To me it adds up to more money spent to train women in infantry and have them wash out as do many males and then have to start a whole new training cycle for them. I hope they have a very stringent screening process for them. I still don’t see the women in combat with the hygiene conditions etc. There are some gutsy women out that but how many want this opportunity. I have to say though that the type of warfare we fight these days does put them at the “front Lines” by essentially no safe rear area and the women driving in convoys and MPs etc hang them right out there with the guys.
Guys,
I still say that the men in todays army are for the most part better conditioned and trained than the conscripts of our day. How many women today could carry the 60-100 pound ruck that the soldiers in Afghanistan carry? Not many I bet. If we are in a crunch for numbers or our HOMELAND is threatened then bring on the women but otherwise I still so no to women in the Infantry. It isn’t called Benning School for Boys for nothing.
I think Mr. Capshaw says it best. I never thought I would be in the infantry and when it happened I thought I would not come home. Went because a number of family served in WW II. There will be those women who will not qualify, those who qualify but prove to be poor enlisted or officers but then those who will go above and beyond the call. A 130 have already been killed in these wars & I do not know the numbered wounded. Time will tell.
Guys, I have been watching the news this morning, these people don’t have a clue what the infantry in combat is like. Training is one thing, actual combat is quite another. Yes, Gary; there were a number of guys in our company that weren’t worth a damn, but I would rather be on patrol with them, than a woman. Tooch
LT: Let’s face it. There aren’t a whole lot of men who are right for the Infantry either. I know I sure wasn’t! 🙂 When they told me I was going to Infantry AIT, I cried. LOL
Larry,
That is a BS argument. First off their are quite a few opportunities for women generals to come up in branches such as finance, AG, Military Intelligence, etc. What is important in the life cycle of general officers is that they have command time of whatever variety. They have tried two women at apparently Infantry OCS and they didn’t make it. There are probably not alot of women who would qualify mentally and phyiscally for the Infantry and besides has anyone asked them if they want to be a frontline troop. I think not!
i just seen another aspect of it ///the reason that was given was so they can become generals and the like//said they can’t do this without infintry time//hopefully we can get some more feedback on this site about the topic…..
Have y’all seen this? SecDef Leon Panetta has lifted the ban on women in combat roles:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/panetta-removes-military-ban-on-women-in-combat-opening-thousands-of-front-line-positions/2013/01/23/8a0e4936-6599-11e2-889b-f23c246aa446_story.html
All I can say is this:
As an old soldier from the old skool days, with a natural male-centric impression birthed in my own experiences, I bemoan the loss of the last exclusive male fraternity left.
HOWEVER…women have proven their mettle time and again, throughout this War on Terror. They’ve been there, done that, in just about every conceivable circumstance short of actually wearing the crossed rifles of the Infantry. They’ve accompanied rifle platoons on patrols and in firefights in a variety of roles, and have stood the challenge of direct combat with the enemy in a thousand unknown and unreported firefights. They’ve died in historic numbers and come home as crippled up as the most “manly” of war fighters, yet most have never wavered in their commitment or sought relief based upon their “weaker” sex. They’ve shouldered the same weapons, borne the same weight, took the same casualties and done their own fair share of the work. They have nothing more to prove to me.
All I can say at this point is…Hoo Ah! Welcome to Ft. Benning, home of the Infantry, ladies. You’ve earned your place.
God Bless you, each and every one.
hi all..good luck on your claims//i got approved in ’91 so they are revisiting and adding more items that the D.A.V. has worked hard to get pensioned for.. GOD bless..HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ALL that will reach another mile stone this year////if all goes well i’ll b seeing alot of you that make the D.C. trip as well as the other reunion…glad to read all the good news… LF
Thanks Bill
LT….I am planning to go to the DC Reunion via Amtrak with my wife….I promised her I wouldn’t drink as much as I did at Hilton Head in ’08…..I saw on a 196th web site that there are 600 rooms reserved at the Hyatt Regency in Crystal City Virginia…..Bill Beckum,we will miss you, but you gotta do what you gotta do…..Congratulations to your son.
Do you guys believe this. I was all prepared to come to the reunion in DC but my son announced he is getting married July 27th in Florida. They expect me to be there or else. He is 42 and his first marriage. Guess I should be there…………………….
Bill,
I got the Christmas card I sent him back with wrong address or such thing so I emailed him and he came back to me and said he was still at the address listed on our roster. Hope all is well and that I will see you in DC!
LT….Have you heard from Pancho lately? ….I sent two e-mails recently and got no response.
Hey Tooch!
I think that picture in its self of you at Rapid City should get you 100%
LT, that picture could get me arrested or is a look at the effects of waterboarding.Tooch
Tooch, I’ve been through the C&P process, and I say never give up. They want you to . also, get some letters from the guys in your platoon if possible, Ben Buehler did for me, huge help. Huge! LT, that was fun to watch, outcome not so hot, but that Wilson kid is the real deal. Glad to hear Lori may be there, I often think of Dan, another good man. Larry said Missar had a birthday? I think of him as ageless, anybody that can sit down with the Capt. every day is the MAN in my book!
tooch–if you need any psychiatric references, i`m sure some 1st platoon members would love to supply some. “colorfull” grunt terminology wjill be vigorously applied.
Terry,
Your Seahawks had a good run and put up a hell of a battle against Atlanta! It was an amazing comeback! I would have loved to see them play the 49ers for the Division Championship but it just wasn’t in the plan. I got an email from Lori Roczniak and she says she is going to try to come DC in July with her daughter and grandkids. Hope all is well brother!
Here’s wishing a happy birthday today to Chuck Missar. I forgot to wish Top Silverman and Ty Harper a happy birthday last week.
Judy and I are in south Texas in a RV resort enjoying some warmer weather than Colorado. However, today is only in the 50’s and it looks like most the week is going to be cold. We will not be fishing in the windy cool days.
Touch, it’s nice to hear from you. Does your email still work?
Yes Larry,my e-mail works Tooch
I put in my first claim to the VA last Feb. I am finally scheduled for 3 C&P exams ;one after the other this Wed. The first is Audiology for Tinitis. The second is Psychiatry for PTSD, and the third is Ortho for residuals on the two wounds I received. Wish me luck Tooch
jim–i suggest you send mail with a return signature requested from whoever in VA received it. when i had my hearing years back some items were not brought up.
not all heart problems qualify. rick perkins has had major heart surgeries at cleveland ohio VA but denied service connection. rick got to C-2.1 in nov of 70. in 2011 he had 17 weeks in intensive care, not a good year for him. docs say they want him but for more, but he is not sure what he`ll do.