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Gary,
The BSM is awarded for meritorious achievement in ground operations against hostile forces not for service. The only ground operations these drone whiz kids would be involved in would be dumping the coffee grounds and making a new pot of coffee.
I don’t see any reason not to honor them for what they do, but it shouldn’t rank anywhere in the order of precedence of medals for valor. However….let’s not forget that you CAN get a BSM and SS for service as well as valor and there is no difference in the order of preference for those. A BSM for service is worn in exactly the same place as a BSM with “V” device.
Bill: Bronze Star Medal
LT,
What does BSM stand for? Not ringing any bells.
Hey Guys,
What do you think of the proposal to come up with a service award medal that would rank higher than the BSM for those folks who sit in airconditioned rooms in AZ and control joysticks for drones that are killing folks in Afghanistan and elsewhere. I personally think it is outrageous.
I uploaded two photos that Ken Ruesch sent me. They will soon be to the right as recently added photos. I know they are not from the Sister Bay reunion, but there were only 2 of them so I did not set up a new set for just two photos. Anyway right now they will be in with the Sister Bay photos.
The DC reunion button above is now updated and there is a link to the 196th site for hotel and registration information. I sent out emails to everyone I have email addresses on.
For years I have been sending notices out by post office of anyone that does not do email. Only a couple of non email guys have attended a reunion. I have names and addresses for 288 Charlie Company guys, 131 of them do not have an email address. I am thinking on only mailing notices to the non emailers that have attended a reunion in the past.
Another thing I run into is email addresses that no longer work. I try and contact the ones that their email address no longer works. This time there was only 9 emails that bounced back.
Bill C,
I know what you mean. Growing old is not for whimps!
Hey troopers,
Check out the 10th Anniv. of the VFW mag. It has charlie two one in it.
I found out C-2-1 was with the 172nd Inf. Bde in Alaska. I also found out they
are now with the 2nd. Inf. Div. at Ft. Lewis, WA. We are like a bastard child
getting kick around. We are still alive!! The 1st. Inf. Regt. was at Pine Ridge
when the 7th Cav. did their dastardly deed killing Lakota women and children
at Wounded Knee. Interesting note with the 1st. Inf. Regt. is there was a capt.
by the last name of Means. Ancestor of Russell Means?
Brothers! If any of you need information about the 196 LIB/C/2/1 reunion in DC in July, give me a shout!
Bill C. when you come to DC please have some thoughts/information ready to discuss about a 2014 New York reunion. Thanks
Hey Bill Beckum….I have lost many cherished items due to moving…I once had a photograph of my father with Eamonn De Valera, IRA revolutionay who was sentenced to death by the British Army in 1916. He escaped and later became first president of the Irish Republic. I haven’t seen that picture for at least 20 years.
You won’t believe this. I was cleaning out a file and found the original General Orders number 10384 from 10 Oct 1969 awarding me the Army Commendation Medial for my service, Order # 327 relieving me from active duty dated 23 Nov 69, my muster out pay on the same date, a Certificate of Appreciate for my service, my DA 1811 with my Physical & Mental Status on my release from active service 23 Nov 69, & my shot records dated 7 Oct 69. I have always had a DD 214 but thought the others had been lost in my 15 moves after the service. Now I need to find those darn photos of Vietnam.
Gosh all mighty Gary you sure are picky picky picky. The Blue Rifle as you state is proof you were a grunt. Anyone who served in Vietnam no matter what capacity put their boots on Vietnam soil at some point.
The proof that you had boots on the ground in Vietnam is your DD214!
No! The proof that you had your boots on the ground is that little blue rifle! 🙂
Everybody else had their boots on something else: An office floor, the deck of a ship, the armor plating of a tank, the sandbags of a bunker, the aluminum of a helicopter.
u r welcome…i have an extra copy …it explains in more detail// when you file your cliam you put in yrs u were in service ..with your dd 214..since u were there then it is presumed that your aliements are related to any defoliants used…
My wife just reserved a room for us at the Embassy Suites Hotel in D.C. for the July reunion. It is about 1.5 miles from the Wall and has smoking and non-smoking rooms. We will defintely attend the Memorial Service on that Saturday afternoon and hope to get together with everybody for a few shots and beers at some point.
seems a bit stupid–not having to prove you were in Nam, if a person is making a claim based on being in Nam. only a politician could think of that, getting benefits for being somewhere, and not being there. like giving illegals benefits for having their kids here, instead of where they came from. then release them when there are too many. yea,we got change.
Thanks
in regards to last post….the DAV has worked hard for US. U no longer have to prove you were over in ‘NAM. They have got most the dieases that we might have as PRESUMABLE….heart—lung—nerve[EVEN PARKINSONS]–copd,cad,[conary artery diease] numerous cancers…. so if you are fixing to file or have filed before talk to a DAV officer and GOD BLESS each and everyone of US. LUCK to all..i thought THIS was worthy of sharing…
howdy all who visit—just got my AGENT ORANGE updated material lots of changes..
SR
You are right…. My can is much bigger than the porta can.
just looked at chucks pic here and was a bit surprised. know some grunts humped unusual items, but where did chuck m get a minature porta-potty ? bet his behind would collapse that potty now.
larry i have a couple pics from tampa that i`ll mail you–if i can remember.
http://www.virtualwall.org/dd/DaughertyRL02a.htm
Robert Lee Daugherty, 41 years today. RIP brother
Boy, there’s a big belly in those Sister Bay pictures.
OH, WAIT! THAT’S MINE!
I was waiting for my wife to come out of the grocery in the parking lot when a guy parked his car and got out wearing a cap with the Americal Division patch and the 196th burning rope. Need less to say I got out and we talked. He was Remf on HH 69-70. Help build HH, pulled guard duty, drove conveys, etc. Did not get his name. Only 2nd guy in all these years have by chance come across on the street. The other was a sniper who had been wounded in the calf of the leg.
Better Louise than me, I would’a broke your camera!
I have been working on the photo section. I have added Ehlers, Pemberton, 2012 reunion at Sister Bay and added a few miscellaneous photos to Current photo section. I took a trip to Washington State last April and saw several guys. Heck, Terry Roberts traveled with me for about three days and I did not get a photo of him. To make up for that, I did get one of his wife Louise. In the current photo section, I added photos of Si Nerone with Johnnie Pearson. I also added photos of Art Sprague, David Easling, Tate Hayes, and Roger Sample.
I think I am caught up on posting all the photos I have. If anyone wants me to post some other photos, get them to me so I can do so. I am working with Lloyd Smith’s widow Marie to get what photos he took posted to the web site.
Heck Larry, wish you could have been a Remf too, Maybe you could have been attached to “chicken man”. We would have been paying admission to see that show!
Chicken man was lucky to get out of the bush alive. I would not have been near the top of people you would have paid admission to see with chicken man. There was lots of guys effected a whole lot more than me. He was also lucky that the company didn’t get out of the field and back where he was.
I have been away for awhile. I guess my post on the 196 LIB REMF’s caused a few responses. I meant nothing offensive for Charlie Company’s REMF’s. Most of our REMF’s did some time in the field and some of them had a lot of time in the field. Heck, I would have taken a REMF job, but none was offered until I had only about week or so left. By the time the offer came, I was so pissed I turned the offer down. Who wouldn’t like to be where they could have a cold beer, a cot to sleep on, a lot better meals, and other benefits??? Just a dumb ass like me.
you all be carefull seeing how ROCKY is suppose to be USA spread… hunker down-
Have ben a life member in VFW since 09/27/73 also life member of DAV since 2002